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m

"I opened the pancake to evaluate each item separately and found nothing more distinguished than anything I could get in a standard Tex-Mex wrap"

How can you take this guy seriously after a comment like that? He reads off the ingredient list, none of which is present in any tex-mex wrap, then claims it all is? Why ponder the ingredients and the process in which each is prepared when you can simply claim that they are comparable to baked beans, cheddar cheese and your adobo meat of choice! I am not saying anyone should or should not like a dish, but at least make sense in your critique.

IMO the (limited) backlash against Ssam has to do with people's hang-ups, expectations and prejudice against nontraditional restaurants. In this case for instance, his entire opinion is based on a single menu item and his clear distaste for the restaurants concept. The noodle bar gets trashed often for similar reasons: it is not traditional raman. Now, you have to ignore completely that Chang never claimed it was and actually presented it as the opposite from day one (all early articles describe the broth, how he makes it and how it is not traditional).

Anyway, in a world of stuffy, trendy sceney NYC restaurants I am glad there is a guy like Chang who, for better or worse, is stripping the BS from his business. This does not translate for some people and that is fine, he will never have a shortage of patrons.

Sarah

While I don't quibble with Sheraton's personal judgment of the ssam and think it's fair to hold a restaurant responsible for everything it chooses to serve (i.e., it counts even if it's "just" served at lunch), I don't think it makes a great deal of sense to judge an entire restaurant based on one dish, especially when that restaurant presents two different menus with clearly different ambitions at lunch and dinner. Of course, Sheraton's punishment for her rush to judgment will be depriving herself of the late night delights like the banh mi, but that's almost too cruel to wish on anyone.

(It's actually my understanding that the ssam was *meant* to be the high-volume item to support the late-night meals, but the neighborhood didn't support the ssam and the culinary world did love the late-night meals--hence the significant expansion of the evening-meal hours.)

The Gurgling Cod

M: It is possible that Ms. Sheraton lives in a world where your entry-level Tex-Mex wrap has more exalted ingredients than in ours. I disagree with the substance of that comment, but understand its spirit.

That said, Sarah's comment is illuminating, about the balance between the wraps and the fancier stuff. I said it in my initial post, and I'll repeat it here -- there are very few places I can think of where Ssam would not be a vast upgrade on the extant lunch options.

Jerky

I'd like to know what Tex-Mex joint Sheraton is used to, cause I'm heading there as soon as I find out!!

m

"It is possible that Ms. Sheraton lives in a world where your entry-level Tex-Mex wrap has more exalted ingredients than in ours. I disagree with the substance of that comment, but understand its spirit."

A challenge to you or anyone else: find a tex-mex option, anywhere, with wraps that include any of the following ingredients:

edamame, pickled shitake red kimchi puree.

... and I doubt there are many that serve heritage pork or japanese style rice. Ad wouldn't most use corn not flour pancake?

Replace that tex-mex nonsense with genuine mexican style street food and *might* let it slide... but not in the context of her greater argument.

I can see how you could take the "spirit" of the statement in stride, but the flip side of the argument is that it flat out is not funny (as intended) or remotely true, and makes an already dubious "opinion" seem a little more flimsy.

Disclaimer: I enjoy both Momo spots and have frequented each since their respective opening... but I'm not defending the spot, or anyones right to be critical... just get a little bent when the hate is for all the wrong reasons.

In summary: if the "message" she got is clearly not what most people are getting, maybe she simply does not understand the language???

DeezNutz

Hey Dipshit,
Are you a total assclown? Reviewing food by repeating someone's review, where they haven't had the food either. Sounds good.

1) A saam has as much to do with a burrito as a shack does to a skyscraper. After all, its just classier more expensive beams in the latter.

2) Do you know what the daytime available population in union square east looking for fine dining? I'd hazard to say not many.

3) How bout you know some facts before spouting about other's business models. They've already shown themselves to be incredibly responsive to the market...why do you think the night menu is available at 5 or 6 instead of 10 and later as it used to be?

4) 5pm might be past your bedtime, but if not, why not try actually eating the food rather than bitching about it sight unseen.

cinetrix

Dear DeezNutz,

You eat heritage pork with that mouth?

Zagnut

Granted, Ssam is a hike from 30th and Madison....

dubarry

it's hard not to pass by one of chang's places without yelling suckaahs!!!! at the top of my lungs. so i do.

dubarry

although i totally disagree with the sentiment, i do applaud the use of "dipshit" in civilized discourse - so recherche.

m

"it's hard not to pass by one of chang's places without yelling suckaahs!!!! at the top of my lungs. so i do."

sick burn, bro!

honestly, hater comentary, behavior (ex: the guy who posted that) and attitude on this subject is steadily creeping from "bizzare" to "idiotic"... on the bright, it is hilarious to watch, and really gives some insight to peoples personality.

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